E. M. Murray

The Turtles: The Most Famous Trading Experiment in History

In DEEP Investing on October 29, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Can the skills of a successful trader be reduced to a set of rule?

Can the skills of a successful trader be reduced to a set of rules?

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“We are going to grow traders just like they grow turtles in Singapore.”

–Richard Dennis in Market Wizards

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The Turtle Experiment

The story, which first appears in Jack Schwager’s Market Wizards, by now has attained almost legendary status.  The year was 1984 and Richard Dennis, a hugely successful commodities trader, was in a long-running philosophical argument with his partner William Eckhardt.  The debate?  Could the skills of a successful trader be reduced to a set of rules–Dennis’s view–or was trading skill an unlearnable intuitive gift?

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“Let’s hire and train some people and see what happens.”

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After running an ad in a Chicago newspaper they screened 1000+ applicants, interviewed 40 and hired 10.   After only 2 weeks of training, the new-hires were turned loose with $100,000.00 each.

In 1985  Dennis repeated the process but reduced training to only 1 week.

Out of 23 trainees, 3 washed out.  The other 20 went on to average 100% per year.

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RICHARD DENNIS ON MECHANICAL RULES

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If you’re interested in how a trading system similar to the Turtle Rules performs when turned loose on the Philippine Stock Market, see Riding Giants at Very Low Risk.

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E. M. Murray.  Managed Equities.  Fixed Downside Risk.

E. M. Murray. Managed Equities. Fixed Downside Risk.